UK DIESEL PRICES.

[Chriskend]

Nope.....I'm "saving" because I'm not going. So the weekend I would have spent £81 camp site fees + £70 food and drinks + local pub + diesel is now not being spent........ diesel at £2.06 a litre is my £5 takeaway coffee, or £3.50 service station sweet bag

Think of it this way...I have money but at a certain point, I say no. Before that point, the money is spent, its allocated.....when I reached the point of no, its back, its in my thoughts and I have the ability to channel that elsewhere.

Its not a literal monetary saving, that would be impossible.

I get the point, we didn’t go away last weekend because it worked out so expensive with the fees and fuel….. so I went to look at a 6mtr van instead….. I think between the orange moron and money grabbing site fees we are pretty much out of luck for cheap weekends away for the rest of the year. The last time I filled up was last month and with a voucher it cost me £1.62 ltr so I think the van will stay in the garage for the winter now. It worked out cheaper to use the EV and stop in a premier inn

 

[Mansfieldman750]

No because the point of NO has not been reached. The No point varies. Even my £500m+ Client has a no point. He relocated out of the country in 2025....a no point reached. His though is probably a lot higher than most on here, but sometimes has an odd flutter on small items that I wouldn't even consider

So as a business I saved £5k last year because I said no to another 15% software price increase or over 5years the 115% price increase. As a business did I save £5k by not renewing or did I not spend £5k

Everyone’s circumstances are different and they will have their own NO point.
But I’ll let you into a little secret that the many pensioners on here who complain about the price of diesel never mention.
State Pension in 2021 ( when we got our van ) £9339.20
Now £12,547.60. Each.

Diesel at £2 now is more affordable for us now than it was at £1.40 or whatever it was then.

The idea of setting a NO price at which we would leave the van on the drive is a non starter for us. Have van go camping. That’s what we bought it for.

 

[pjm-84]

I will leave this here......BOE uses interest rates to manipulate Yes and No...

 

[Mansfieldman750]

I will leave this here......BOE uses interest rates to manipulate Yes and No...

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Well yes, you’ve just made my point for me. If the State Pension went up with inflation it would be £12006.61 but because of the triple lock it’s actually £12,547.60.

 

[Chriskend]

Everyone’s circumstances are different and they will have their own NO point.
But I’ll let you into a little secret that the many pensioners on here who complain about the price of diesel never mention.
State Pension in 2021 ( when we got our van ) £9339.20
Now £12,547.60. Each.

Diesel at £2 now is more affordable for us now than it was at £1.40 or whatever it was then.

The idea of setting a NO price at which we would leave the van on the drive is a non starter for us. Have van go camping. That’s what we bought it for.

Good call, but you may have forgot to mention the fact that everything has shot up in price and in real terms your pension is not worth any more than it was in 2021

 

[KevH]

Well yes, you’ve just made my point for me. If the State Pension went up with inflation it would be £12006.61 but because of the triple lock it’s actually £12,547.60.

I am 69, paid NI contributions from age 16 to 59 and my state pension, paid from age 66, is circa £9k. So 43 years of paying in.
My point is that the pension figures touted in the media are maximums and not actuals and are probably best not relevant in a discussion about diesel prices.

 

[pjm-84]

I am 69, paid NI contributions from age 16 to 59 and my state pension, paid from age 66, is circa £9k. So 43 years of paying in.
My point is that the pension figures touted in the media are maximums and not actuals and are probably best not relevant in a discussion about diesel prices.

Yep...easy to respond back to Mansfield750, but I'll let it go......

 

[Mansfieldman750]

I am 69, paid NI contributions from age 16 to 59 and my state pension, paid from age 66, is circa £9k. So 43 years of paying in.
My point is that the pension figures touted in the media are maximums and not actuals and are probably best not relevant in a discussion about diesel prices.

Ok if Pensions are not relevant back to diesel prices.
I do 10,000 miles a year. Low thirties mpg, call it 7 miles per litre.
10,000/7 = 1428.57 litres per year.
At £1.50/ litre = £2142.86 per year.
At £2.00/ litre = £2857.14 per year
At £3.00 litre as per FivetonesCali prediction would be £4285.72 per year.

What will be will be. Goes without saying low diesel prices are preferable. But if they stay high we’ll still be doing 10,000 miles again next year.
I am sorry but the idea of not using the van because of the price of diesel just doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[pjm-84]

That's not what I said.....I said I was thinking of going away, but decided not to .... it my disposable income and I can chose where and how to spend it. But the price of fuel for a 400miles round trip at 28 ish = £130 diesel ....£130 does hurt us.....but it starts getting into that £5 takeway coffee zone

 

[pjm-84]

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A £5 takeaway coffee is increasingly perceived by UK consumers as a luxury rather than a routine daily purchase, shifting how people view value, cost, and habit on the high street.

 

[sidepod]

Both myself and better half dump cash into a “fun fund” every month for hols/outings etc. we generally go away together which effectively, using man maths, halves the price so we’re paying £1/ltr.
If only we could get the hound to chip in we’d be laughing.

 

[acer]

That's not what I said.....I said I was thinking of going away, but decided not to .... it my disposable income and I can chose where and how to spend it. But the price of fuel for a 400miles round trip at 28 ish = £130 diesel ....£130 does hurt us.....but it starts getting into that £5 takeway coffee zone

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Of course, it’s up to all of us how we spend our money. I genuinely want to understand your view, because I fear that I may have misunderstood. Is it simply that, given finite resources, you would rather buy a takeaway coffee everyday, to a one week holiday in your van?

 

[acer]

Both myself and better half dump cash into a “fun fund” every month for hols/outings etc. we generally go away together which effectively, using man maths, halves the price so we’re paying £1/ltr.
If only we could get the hound to chip in we’d be laughing.

Conversely, I’m considering leaving Mrs Acer behind next time to save on excess baggage.

 

[vmaxkiddy]

I get the point, we didn’t go away last weekend because it worked out so expensive with the fees and fuel….. so I went to look at a 6mtr van instead….. I think between the orange moron and money grabbing site fees we are pretty much out of luck for cheap weekends away for the rest of the year. The last time I filled up was last month and with a voucher it cost me £1.62 ltr so I think the van will stay in the garage for the winter now. It worked out cheaper to use the EV and stop in a premier inn

I stayed in the Premier inn, Portishead, (exciting, I know) on Monday night, £199 plus breakfast at £11.99, and NO purple ketchup.

 

[pchmlk]

this reminds me of similar threads on boat forums a few years back. 10s or 100s of thousands of pounds of vehicle not being used because of an increase in one aspect of ownership. Easy to justify the cost of toys when they’re being used but when they’re not…

 

[chockswahay]

this reminds me of similar threads on boat forums a few years back. 10s or 100s of thousands of pounds of vehicle not being used because of an increase in one aspect of ownership. Easy to justify the cost of toys when they’re being used but when they’re not…

That resonates with us. We’re about to sell the van and considering another sailing yacht but this time it is with the intention of spending April to September on it full time so even less need for a campervan. Each time we have one or the other we miss the one we don’t have but when we have tried having both at the same time we realise that we resent leaving one unused, if that makes any sense at all

 

[acer]

this reminds me of similar threads on boat forums a few years back. 10s or 100s of thousands of pounds of vehicle not being used because of an increase in one aspect of ownership. Easy to justify the cost of toys when they’re being used but when they’re not…

Well, yes. If I have understood things correctly, I was going to go on to say that if things are so tight that you can’t afford your daily cup of mucky water due to the cost of a one week Campervan holiday, it might be time to sell your latent holiday (the Campervan) sitting on your drive.

 

[sidepod]

Well, yes. If I have understood things correctly, I was going to go on to say that if things are so tight that you can’t afford your daily cup of mucky water due to the cost of a one week Campervan holiday, it might be time to sell your latent holiday (the Campervan) sitting on your drive.

It used to be called “spark plug money”. Punters could just about afford the HP but had nothing left for maintenance.
This is no different to mortgages that we’ve all had at some point. You need to factor in variations so you can keep the roof over your head.
I know a van is a luxury but the same principle applies surely.

 

[briwy]

Not wishing to rub salt in to an open wound…drove from the border to Blairgowrie and back in the Tesla around 340mls, cost me a whopping £6.80 on cheap rate.

Yes but did you sleep in it overnight???

 

[briwy]

Haven 2 bed caravan in Oct/Nov £49 for four nights

 

[Why Not]

'tis a mindset thing folks. Try not to focus so much on the cost of something sitting on the drive or in the marina when not being used. Think not of the cost of fuel when being used. All affordability assumed, of course.

Think more of what you get from the experience of using it. If those experiences 'can't be bought' and you consider them 'priceless/worth it' and a definite enhancement to quality of life, then the cost of it sitting on the drive is nowt but a red herring.

 

[stoobthealien]

Looping this back to Calis for a moment - it's so frustrating that they won't bring the non camper (box in the boot) version of the Beach to the UK because it'll not be registered as a campervan and therefore attract all sorts of expensive VED supplements. If you're spending 60grand plus on a car then incrementally more tax each year is something you can likely afford

 

[sidepod]

Yes but did you sleep in it overnight???

I’m glad someone pointed that out. There are other posts quoting pointless mpg of non camping vehicles FFS! I’ve got three push bikes to get around on but that’s not really the point!

 

[pjm-84]

Of course, it’s up to all of us how we spend our money. I genuinely want to understand your view, because I fear that I may have misunderstood. Is it simply that, given finite resources, you would rather buy a takeaway coffee everyday, to a one week holiday in your van?

No its an unplanned weekend a way..........its not a holiday......I've just come back from a holiday.

The coffee and price is a saying / a remark / a statement about the rising costs....do not take it literally

The £5 coffee saying (or the "£5 coffee" concept) refers to the rising economic reality and cultural milestone where a standard takeaway coffee, flat white, or latte in the UK approaches or hits the £5 price mark

 

[pjm-84]

Haven 2 bed caravan in Oct/Nov £49 for four nights

I noticed that camping at the Haven sites are quite cheap off seasons ...... but that's really low for a caravan........