Armageddon

[acer]

The price of diesel never bothers me - I only ever put £20 in the tank.

 

[sidepod]

This ruined my mpg today. I also rename this thread Carmageddon

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I’m convinced it’s only possible to achieve a max of 10mpg difference between tickling along at 50mph and driving it like you’ve nicked it.

That can’t be Vmax surely?

 

[flying banana]

I’m convinced it’s only possible to achieve a max of 10mpg difference between tickling along at 50mph and driving it like you’ve nicked it.

That can’t be Vmax surely?

Top speed Is around 126mph.

 

[Up10]

Top speed Is around 126mph.

You must drive like a saint, we don't do as well with mpg as you for sure! But we are on Sports setting so that might assist in our poor consumption, I suppose!

 

[Dizzy]

Price is what it is... you can either pay it or not - your choice i am afraid... Do we want to pay higher prices ? narp... We're off to spain end of April for 5 weeks, only thing we are concerned about is getting fuel, we know we have 1000km in the tank when full so as long as we have enough to get back to Bilbao we arent that bothered.

We just adjusted our driving style to take things even easier than usual. See below filled up in Bridport a couple of weeks back, drove home, up to Durham and back.. 40.3 avg. usually its about 38.

We did get 47mpg on one short hop from Catterick to Sheffield.

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[lohr500]

Greetings from Germany, diesel was 2,35€ a litre when I passed the filling station this morning on the way to work.

That's useful info. We are setting off from UK in early May so I will try to find out the relative prices for diesel in UK, NL & DE and then plan to fill up in whichever country has the lowest cost.

Local UK diesel price is Euro.2.09 today, so unless it is cheaper in NL, it looks like we will be best filling up before the ferry. But a lot could change in a few weeks time.

 

[Cali Phillip]

Just using the hybrid more...fuel is minor compared to the knock costs of higher energy and transport that will follow on down the line....

That’s what we do locally, minimum 60mpg hybrid Toyota. Cali in winter 33mpg av (with heater) and 38-40mph summer.

 

[Cali Phillip]

Top speed Is around 126mph.

Wonder what the 150ps does v max.

 

[Magic Bus]

Fuel prices are only at the same level that they were when the Ukraine War started. We did a trip to the Outer Hebrides that year - over 1500 miles done in total - 3 full tanks of diesel. We paid around £1.90 a litre in Scotland (invergarry on the way to Skye, and Broadford on Skye on the way back). When compared to the cost of campsites it’s not all that bad. It was costing £90+ to fill up, as opposed to £60 normally, so probably added another £100 to the cost of our trip overall.

Just fill up as and when you can.

 

[andyinluton]

Wonder what the 150ps does v max.

I’ve seen 120 on the clock in a 140se I reckon folding the mirrors in might help. It’s not pleasant at that speed, steering getting a bit twitchy and wind getting past the seals around the doors making it very noisy.

The instantaneous mpg read out was down in the teens.

Did it once just to see what it would do, won’t be doing it again.

 

[Cali Phillip]

Fuel prices are only at the same level that they were when the Ukraine War started. We did a trip to the Outer Hebrides that year - over 1500 miles done in total - 3 full tanks of diesel. We paid around £1.90 a litre in Scotland (invergarry on the way to Skye, and Broadford on Skye on the way back). When compared to the cost of campsites it’s not all that bad. It was costing £90+ to fill up, as opposed to £60 normally, so probably added another £100 to the cost of our trip overall.

Just fill up as and when you can.

it is almost £1.90/l in Fort William now, just reduce use. I cycled tot he start of my hill run today instead off taking the van. 8km saved at cold start conditions.

 

[Corradobrit]

That's useful info. We are setting off from UK in early May so I will try to find out the relative prices for diesel in UK, NL & DE and then plan to fill up in whichever country has the lowest cost.

Local UK diesel price is Euro.2.09 today, so unless it is cheaper in NL, it looks like we will be best filling up before the ferry. But a lot could change in a few weeks time.

Luxembourg is worth a slight detour to fill up, especially if you have a 80L tank. 2.01 euro per litre. NL has some of the most expensive in Europe.

 

[chockswahay]

We took some diesel on in Denmark yesterday at 17.59 DKK (£2.06) per litre which was much cheaper than Germany. In Iceland it is currently listed at around £1.54 so filling up when we get there (also for the winter grade fuel). Our average MPG for the last 1100 miles has been 45.2 with a peek of 51.9 , flat and clear roads at 90 to 100 KPH helped apart from the MASSIVE traffic jams around Hamburg

 

[sidepod]

He could always just suspend HS2 then, all those thousands of huge earth movers would cease burning thousands of gallons a day pointlessly moving huge mountains of earth back and forth , month in month out, for no apparent reason!!!

 

[pematthe-1967]

Good morning from Slovenia.

Diesel is currently 1.80 per litre, 14 days ago it was 1.52

AFAIK, there is still 50 ltrs per fill per day. Or just go to another filling station and finish the top up.

It is not about shortages it is about Italians and Austrian's hopping across the border for cheaper fuel.

 

[Dom1nion]

We're off to Rome, via Strasbourg, Innsbruck, Lake Garda and Rimini from 1st May for 3 weeks. I'll report back some of the prices and if there are any shortages or rationing. Like others, we'll just have to suck up the extra cost and pootle more than hurtle, I'm not letting the big orange buffoon spoil our holiday.

 

[Adno]

Re. The latest shenanigans, how much is this going to affect your plans? Previously booked or in the near future. Fuel prices are becoming ridiculous, and if it carries on shortages will follow.
Such a shame as I’m reconsidering my Euro trip now. Plus pretty sure we’ll see a profiteering hike in uk rates..

a bit too much propaganda, in Poland there is no problem with fuel and a liter of 95 petrol costs 1.38-1.4 Eu

Price is one thing but shortages have me a little concerned about our Euro trip end of April. Reality at the moment is there is no shortage but panic buying is causing short term localised supply issues. No help if you’re deep in Germany and need to get home.

a bit too much propaganda, in Poland there is no problem with fuel and a liter of 95 petrol costs 1.38-1.4 Eu . diesel 1,75

 

[Flower Power]

Poland lowered prices at the pump by temporary reduction in fuel tax. Italy did the same as well. I think that Spain did also.
Germany made thinks worse in a typical German fashion of prohibiting things in life. Geniuses in Berlin prohibited gas stations to hike the prices to once a day and only at noon. In practice all stations raised prices "just in case" and to the highest levels ever. In my area some stations charge now 2.49 euro/l for diesel. Most stay at 2.35 . Before the law, which took effect 6 days ago the price was 2.19 or lower. Germany is not lowering tax... it needs money and higher oil prices help the state treasury.

 

[Billy]

I’m just getting on with it and not letting it ruin any of my trips , life is too short… roll on my trip to Portugal in four weeks

 

[Wannabecamperman]

...Or swap to a

 

[Wannabecamperman]

FULL DISCLOSURE:

Having driven a Tesla company car alongside the Cali, and installed a home charger and solar / lithium storage on the Octopus 5.5p per kWh overnight tariff, we have now sold the Cali and am trying to get out of the remaining lease on the Tesla Model Y to swap to the above.

The benefits of needing no gas, power banks, solar or leisure batteries, plus the silent heat pump being far preferable to the ticking heater fan on cold nights, not to mention dirty diesel prices and DPF / EGR issues, combined with a 7 year warranty (8 years battery) and almost zero servicing costs are just too compelling for us. Oh, and it's just 4.7m long and 1.97 (inc. Pop top) high, so no issues with 4.8m parking bays and aggressive ticketing on the South Coast that boil my blood!

So, apologies if I'm somewhat derailing a Cali forum thread. I have become something of an EV fanboy, and I just can't see why anyone with access to a home charger and 2p per mile motoring wouldn't feel the same way. I see almost zero downside with the new PV5 camper versus the Cali, and a ton of upside and long-term cost saving.

 

[KP01]

FULL DISCLOSURE:

Having driven a Tesla company car alongside the Cali, and installed a home charger and solar / lithium storage on the Octopus 5.5p per kWh overnight tariff, we have now sold the Cali and am trying to get out of the remaining lease on the Tesla Model Y to swap to the above.

The benefits of needing no gas, power banks, solar or leisure batteries, plus the silent heat pump being far preferable to the ticking heater fan on cold nights, not to mention dirty diesel prices and DPF / EGR issues, combined with a 7 year warranty (8 years battery) and almost zero servicing costs are just too compelling for us. Oh, and it's just 4.7m long and 1.97 (inc. Pop top) high, so no issues with 4.8m parking bays and aggressive ticketing on the South Coast that boil my blood!

So, apologies if I'm somewhat derailing a Cali forum thread. I have become something of an EV fanboy, and I just can't see why anyone with access to a home charger and 2p per mile motoring wouldn't feel the same way. I see almost zero downside with the new PV5 camper versus the Cali, and a ton of upside and long-term cost saving.

Range looks very limited though. This is a screenshot of the spec of the van from Kia’s website. Load that up with campervan kit and it’s not going very far at all. If you’re then running your cooking, heating and fridge on it without hookup, you’ll have nothing left to drive with.

 

[KP01]

Range looks very limited though. This is a screenshot of the spec of the van from Kia’s website. Load that up with campervan kit and it’s not going very far at all. If you’re then running your cooking, heating and fridge on it without hookup, you’ll have nothing left to drive with.View attachment 146122

Remember, that’s WLTP. Knock a good 20 per cent or so off for real world conditions. Even more in winter.

I drive an EV. Love it. Never plan to drive an ICE car again. Wish my Grand Cali was EV. But I don’t think the battery tech is there yet for vans.

 

[Chriskend]

My wife and I have a Tesla each for 6 years now, don’t forget to knock off 20% for only charging to 80%, getting the t7 diesel in a couple of weeks, that will be the only ice vehicle we will own, just not enough range for a full ev camper yet

 

[willwander]

Wait until they blow up Hungary’s pipeline. Don’t think we ever found out who blew up the last one.