Off road tyre opinions

Webbah_in_Switzerland said:

I’m running Black Rhino Warlords. No rubbing whatsoever.


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Aha, do you know what offset ET they came in?

JMStockholm said:

Aha, do you know what offset ET they came in?

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I believe they are ET35 but I’d have to check. 99% sure.


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JMStockholm said:

Have you fitted them and if so, on what rims?

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Not yet, still waiting on stock of the OZ Rally Raid wheels (8x17 et35) they’ll be going on.

FivetonesCali said:

Not yet, still waiting on stock of the OZ Rally Raid wheels (8x17 et35) they’ll be going on.

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OK, my current rims are ET40 and seems to work fine. Just curious if I could transfer them to factory rims with et55 without rubbing.

JMStockholm said:

OK, my current rims are ET40 and seems to work fine. Just curious if I could transfer them to factory rims with et55 without rubbing.

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My hunch would be that it would be fine. The width will be a factor too don’t forget.

Webbah_in_Switzerland said:

I’m running Black Rhino Warlords. No rubbing whatsoever.


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Which size tyres are you running on your Warlords ? 235 or 246/70?

Kidz147 said:

Which size tyres are you running on your Warlords ? 235 or 246/70?

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235/65R17. This size is fully homologated in Switzerland.


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Sold my set of 235/65, although worked totally fine on ET40, to much hassel to understand if the are OK or not. Thinking about fitting General Grabber AT3 235/55 R17 103H XL FR 3PMSF. Anybody having experience of them?

As stated several times above, there are Cali owners who like or liked a lot their Michelin Latitude Cross tyres. (235/55R17 103H)
I just ordered 5 of them. It is no longer easy to find them and find them at the decent price. Costco in France can not get them anymore.... production is about to finish or maybe finished, they have told me after checking with their warehouse in Spain. Several German outlets sell what is left and had only 1 or 3 pieces in stock. I got them from oponeo.de at the decent price of 151 euros each delivered. They have many of them and sell as oponeo.fr, oponeo.co.uk, and so on. A Polish company covering many countries. I asked them to ship them to a DPD point so I can check the production dates before accepting them. Will see what is the date.

So, this might be the last call to get these tires.... or maybe not. Previously there were also rumours that production is ending but they marched on. If you were thinking about getting Michelin Latitude Cross, maybe now is the time to act.

Yes, re the Latitude Cross, I ascertained a couple months ago from Michelin that they're no longer making them in smaller sizes (I was after 15 inch but prob aplies to Cali sizes also). They didn't say if they're going to drop the whole range but if so that would be a pity. I've not been able to find a very similar tyre type, ie a 'hybrid' road/AT type with butch sidewalls, from other brands.

[EDIT] Have been contemplating Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015. Slightly more of an SUV tyre than a road/At hybrid, but have heard good things for durability and reasonable performance on all surfaces. And unlike the Lat Cross it is 3PMSF marked.

General Tyres seems to have launched a new intermediate tyre recently: the Grabber Cross A/S, which also comes in the 235/55-R17 103XL size and has 3PMSF as well. Could be a contender for the Latitude cross if no longer available?
Or similarly, the Geolandar CV 4S, which also seems more robust than standard all-seasons, but not as aggressive as the G015.

So.... new Michelin Latitude Cross came in yesterday. Production week is 42 of 2024. One and and a half years old but have an appearance of very 'fresh" . It could be better date wise but worse was possible as well. Nine mm depth (9) , so average these days. Times when most tyres had 11 or 12 mm are gone. Made in France.

Michelin in Germany just announced rebates of 10 euros/tyre for this17" size so I will have 141 euros a piece in them. Not bad. Price of a medium/budget tier tyre. I have also noticed that now they are well over 200 euros on all web sites in our size 235/55r17 103H. Probably it is true that only remaining stock is available. I will install them next week.

Flower Power said:

So.... new Michelin Latitude Cross came in yesterday. Production week is 42 of 2024. One and and a half years old but have an appearance of very 'fresh" . It could be better date wise but worse was possible as well. Nine mm depth (9) , so average these days. Times when most tyres had 11 or 12 mm are gone. Made in France.

Michelin in Germany just announced rebates of 10 euros/tyre for this17" size so I will have 141 euros a piece in them. Not bad. Price of a medium/budget tier tyre. I have also noticed that now they are well over 200 euros on all web sites in our size 235/55r17 103H. Probably it is true that only remaining stock is available. I will install them next week.

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Good stuff. Personally I wouldn't worry in slightest about an 18 month old tyre. They won't have been stored in sunshine so any deterioration will be inconsequential.