How/where to store a Disklok ?

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The title says it all: how and where to keep a Disklok in a California (T6.1) so it's easy to reach for when parking, but not in the way and not loose somewhere in the back ? I don't want it to fly in my neck in an accident ...

I thought about some holder between the seats ? Any ideas ?

Thx,
Stefan
 
The title says it all: how and where to keep a Disklok in a California (T6.1) so it's easy to reach for when parking, but not in the way and not loose somewhere in the back ? I don't want it to fly in my neck in an accident ...

I thought about some holder between the seats ? Any ideas ?

Thx,
Stefan
In the garage in a box is the best place for one.
 
I take it you're not a fan then :) ?
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Where do you carry the key for the Disklock? I bet the majority of owners have it on their key ring.
As the vehicle can only be stolen and driven away with the key + Immobiliser Fob then if the keys are stolen then the thief has both the vehicle key, Immobiliser fob and Disklock key in their hands.

Keep the keys safe, keep the vehicle safe.

The California is one of the least stolen vehicles on the planet.
 
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Where do you carry the key for the Disklock? I bet the majority of owners have it on their key ring.
As the vehicle can only be stolen and driven away with the key + Immobiliser Fob then if the keys are stolen then the thief has both the vehicle key, Immobiliser fob and Disklock key in their hands.

Keep the keys safe, keep the vehicle safe.

The California is one of the least stolen vehicles on the planet.
Yes thats me key on keyring but I dont bother with it now 5 years down the line, however, good point as never looked at it that way just assumed they could break in & start it without the key - sorry girl logic!!
 
Going back to original question,I’ve got a disc lock bag & just store it in the drawer under bed…
Agreed they are cumbersome and know it’s only a deterrent when all said & done but when we leave the van parked up to go walking for the day it gives me a bit more peace of mind…
 
Whilst acknowledging the point made by @WelshGas I use a disclok as a deterrent.
I keep it lodged between and just forward of the front seats, it doesn't move at all, surprisingly. On or off in seconds, it has become second nature.
 
The title says it all: how and where to keep a Disklok in a California (T6.1) so it's easy to reach for when parking, but not in the way and not loose somewhere in the back ? I don't want it to fly in my neck in an accident ...

I thought about some holder between the seats ? Any ideas ?

Thx,
Stefan
Lodged somewhere near the seat could become tragically unlodged in an accident. I don't think there is any easily accessible location for a Disklok that is also safe; the closest IMO is the cupboard or underbench drawer.

I have a bearlock, which satisfies your basic criteria (except possibly cost). I carry the key separate from the vehicle key.
 
Whilst acknowledging the point made by @WelshGas I use a disclok as a deterrent.
I keep it lodged between and just forward of the front seats, it doesn't move at all, surprisingly. On or off in seconds, it has become second nature.
How do you keep it lodged there ?

I also try to/would use it as a deterrent, but since it's so cumbersome, I often don't take it with me. If it were easily reachable, otoh, I would often use it. On and of goes in seconds indeed.

Good point about the key: keeping it separate from the fob is a better idea.
 
I guess I’ll just do my usual rant about additional security measures ;)

Deterrent for what?

No-one is wandering around like the 80’s shoving screwdrivers into locks to start cars and drive them away. No-one. So what are we/you deterring?

Same as a bear lock, it’s a very clever solution for something that is not a problem. Not that you can see that from the site - the marketing would have you believe every other car on the street is stolen.

Are we assuming someone will see a Cali, look over their shoulder, smash the window and then try and steal it? And if there is a steering lock they won’t? Literally does not and has never happened.

If anyone is doing that they are looking for something inside to steal and sell for drugs, in which case any sort of anti-driving mechanism is pointless and ignored.

The same as it is pointless without the key. I have said before, there are two ways to steal a Cali. With the key or with a low loader. If they are doing the latter, the steering lock is irrelevant.

They are not doing that. I did some analysis a few years ago on DVLA data and worked out 9 Cali’s were stolen in a year. I’d imagine it’s even less now. And they were old ones, probably with the key taken from the house.

Without a key it is literally impossible to drive away a Cali. See my reply to OP’s other post about the key being passive.

So to answer the OP and the original Q - Store it in the garage in it’s box, or better still, leave it on the shelf in a shop.

I remain open to owners having peace of mind, but don’t mistake that for actual security.

Note 1 - Most Cali owners are older and it is, after a house, the most expensive thing they ever bought - I get peace of mind and the fear that creates and I get that they still have joyrides and ram raids on their minds hence why they think covering it in tinfoil will protect it....

Note 2 - This is for a 6.1. if you have a keyless Van, take relevant advice and secure additionally. I’m not sure what the T7 security is.

Edit - I have found a sheet of UK thefts from Jan 23 - Jan 24 by model. A single 61 plate Cali was stolen in June 2023, and recovered.
 
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I have a steering wheel lock which I keep behind the drivers seat. never used it, but it saves carrying a baseball ball bat without a ball as a “security aid” which is classed as a dangerous weapon
 
I have a steering wheel lock which I keep behind the drivers seat. never used it, but it saves carrying a baseball ball bat without a ball as a “security aid” which is classed as a dangerous weapon
Hint - if you also carry a ball, the Bat is classed as a piece of play equipment instead ;)
 
Hint - if you also carry a ball, the Bat is classed as a piece of play equipment instead ;)
I know but then i’d have a steering wheel lock, baseball bat and a ball to store. In my old van i got stopped and the guy saw the bat and asked if i had the ball as he was going to do me if i didnt have one, i produced a bona fide baseball and a tennis ball,. He wasn’t impressed!
 
Hint - if you also carry a ball, the Bat is classed as a piece of play equipment instead ;)
Or carry a disklock and clonk them with that :headbang

As an aside, when arranging insurance with CaravanGuard I was asked if I used any physical devices, such as a steering lock. I declared the disklock and use of said item became a condition of the policy.
I am with Safeguard now who don't insist on it, but I still fit it, though I guess it's a peace of mind thing, as you suggest. :rolleyes:
 
I guess I’ll just do my usual rant about additional security measures ;)

Deterrent for what?

No-one is wandering around like the 80’s shoving screwdrivers into locks to start cars and drive them away. No-one. So what are we/you deterring?

Same as a bear lock, it’s a very clever solution for something that is not a problem. Not that you can see that from the site - the marketing would have you believe every other car on the street is stolen.

Are we assuming someone will see a Cali, look over their shoulder, smash the window and then try and steal it? And if there is a steering lock they won’t? Literally does not and has never happened.

If anyone is doing that they are looking for something inside to steal and sell for drugs, in which case any sort of anti-driving mechanism is pointless and ignored.

The same as it is pointless without the key. I have said before, there are two ways to steal a Cali. With the key or with a low loader. If they are doing the latter, the steering lock is irrelevant.

They are not doing that. I did some analysis a few years ago on DVLA data and worked out 9 Cali’s were stolen in a year. I’d imagine it’s even less now. And they were old ones, probably with the key taken from the house.


Edit - I have found a sheet of UK thefts from Jan 23 - Jan 24 by model. A single 61 plate Cali was stolen in June 2023, and recovered.

Maybe there were few around ? Maybe they are not very wanted ? Maybe so little were stolen because all the others were protected with a Disklok :cool: ?

Just saying, that kind of figures does not prove anything, but I see your point :).
Anyway, I bought mine quite some time ago, and since I have it, I can as well use it.

Thx,
Stefan.
 
Maybe there were few around ? Maybe they are not very wanted ? Maybe so little were stolen because all the others were protected with a Disklok :cool: ?

Just saying, that kind of figures does not prove anything, but I see your point :).
Anyway, I bought mine quite some time ago, and since I have it, I can as well use it.

Thx,
Stefan.
As always, 100% your decision. I’d put it on ebay and save myself 5 minutes of pointless faff every time I stopped and started the van. No need to compound one mistake (buying one) with another meaning you need to take it on and off all the time.
 
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Or just rotate the drivers seat maybe? We all know what a pain that is and you will have needed to open the driver's door for that. That in itself could well be enough of the visual deterrent you are after?
 
I guess I’ll just do my usual rant about additional security measures ;)

Deterrent for what?

No-one is wandering around like the 80’s shoving screwdrivers into locks to start cars and drive them away. No-one. So what are we/you deterring?

Same as a bear lock, it’s a very clever solution for something that is not a problem. Not that you can see that from the site - the marketing would have you believe every other car on the street is stolen.

Are we assuming someone will see a Cali, look over their shoulder, smash the window and then try and steal it? And if there is a steering lock they won’t? Literally does not and has never happened.

If anyone is doing that they are looking for something inside to steal and sell for drugs, in which case any sort of anti-driving mechanism is pointless and ignored.

The same as it is pointless without the key. I have said before, there are two ways to steal a Cali. With the key or with a low loader. If they are doing the latter, the steering lock is irrelevant.

They are not doing that. I did some analysis a few years ago on DVLA data and worked out 9 Cali’s were stolen in a year. I’d imagine it’s even less now. And they were old ones, probably with the key taken from the house.

Without a key it is literally impossible to drive away a Cali. See my reply to OP’s other post about the key being passive.

So to answer the OP and the original Q - Store it in the garage in it’s box, or better still, leave it on the shelf in a shop.

I remain open to owners having peace of mind, but don’t mistake that for actual security.

Note 1 - Most Cali owners are older and it is, after a house, the most expensive thing they ever bought - I get peace of mind and the fear that creates and I get that they still have joyrides and ram raids on their minds hence why they think covering it in tinfoil will protect it....

Note 2 - This is for a 6.1. if you have a keyless Van, take relevant advice and secure additionally. I’m not sure what the T7 security is.

Edit - I have found a sheet of UK thefts from Jan 23 - Jan 24 by model. A single 61 plate Cali was stolen in June 2023, and recovered.
That’s good to know, one stolen out of how many on the road?
 
Or just rotate the drivers seat maybe? We all know what a pain that is and you will have needed to open the driver's door for that. That in itself could well be enough of the visual deterrent you are after?
That might be a good idea, and then I could indeed put the Disklok on eBay .. Decisions ... :)
 
That’s good to know, one stolen out of how many on the road?
I’m not sure the validity, but found this. VW only report sales globally it seems. I also have a sneaky suspicion the data I found was London only, although it did not overtly say, but that jives with my previous analysis of 9 across the UK. It’s also worth noting that a lot of stats for “theft” include from, not just of, cos that gives a bigger number for headlines, tabloids, innit.When you look at of and from thefts from unlocked cars are staggeringly high, shown but the amount of reprobates we see around my estate trying door handles at 2am to grab something to sell for weed.

Either way, the smart advice is secure your key, hide your valuables and lock your car. Everything else is tinfoil.

What I will say, given it happened to one of my team last year, is that Ghost saved his car. The thieves swiped his keys through the letterbox (yes, he stored at the front door) and then tried to drive it away. The Ghost saved him. So if you are dim enough to not secure your keys inside as well as outside. We hide all our keys inside the house and have nothing that is either in arms reach or obvious (hanging by the door, in a bowl, etc).

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I’m not sure the validity, but found this. VW only report sales globally it seems. I also have a sneaky suspicion the data I found was London only, although it did not overtly say, but that jives with my previous analysis of 9 across the UK. It’s also worth noting that a lot of stats for “theft” include from, not just of, cos that gives a bigger number for headlines, tabloids, innit.When you look at of and from thefts from unlocked cars are staggeringly high, shown but the amount of reprobates we see around my estate trying door handles at 2am to grab something to sell for weed.

Either way, the smart advice is secure your key, hide your valuables and lock your car. Everything else is tinfoil.

What I will say, given it happened to one of my team last year, is that Ghost saved his car. The thieves swiped his keys through the letterbox (yes, he stored at the front door) and then tried to drive it away. The Ghost saved him. So if you are dim enough to not secure your keys inside as well as outside. We hide all our keys inside the house and have nothing that is either in arms reach or obvious (hanging by the door, in a bowl, etc).

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You are out by a factor of 10. There are around 16,000 Californias on the road in UK.
Worldwide, I think I remember something about the 250,000 one had left the production line, but that was a few years back.

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You are out by a factor of 10. There are around 16,000 Californias on the road in UK.
Worldwide, I think I remember something about the 250,000 one had left the production line, but that was a few years back.

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Cool, well, I’m not out, hence my warning, just CBA spending more than 2 minutes on Google on it ;)
 
Cool, well, I’m not out, hence my warning, just CBA spending more than 2 minutes on Google on it ;)

Well I asked the Big G myself and it referred me back to the California Club Owners Forum so here I am.
130 leisure vehicles in total stolen in 2025. How many were Californias ? Probably not a lot, maybe none.
I’m going to continue hiding my keys, might be in the house, might not, no one will never know. It’ll be fine.

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Well I asked the Big G myself and it referred me back to the California Club Owners Forum so here I am.
130 leisure vehicles in total stolen in 2025. How many were Californias ? Probably not a lot, maybe none.
I’m going to continue hiding my keys, might be in the house, might not, no one will never know. It’ll be fine.

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All sounds positive, I’ll concentrate on keeping the keys safe, making it less appealing for theft of items from the California. The latter probably a bigger risk than theft of the California.
 
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