Roof sag - Clamp thingy?

[jamesC]

It is so frustrating the VW are apparently ignoring the underlying issue. My plan is to use supports inside the roof fabric. If I find a suitably robust solution, I will post it here

 

[CaliforniaCylus]

It is so frustrating the VW are apparently ignoring the underlying issue. My plan is to use supports inside the roof fabric. If I find a suitably robust solution, I will post it here

I think it needs someone to document the issue clearly with VW and when they don't play ball, have a new pump installed by say Kernow and then present VW with the bill.

Straightforward to take them to court.

I'm a bit in two minds myself about this because I'm worried VW might ultimately agree to replace and I'm not sure there's many VW dealers I'd trust to sort it out!!!

Big thread on this here.

https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/thread...ng-bellows-roof-poptop-tpi.56210/#post-728126

 

[sidepod]

VW clearly states their “acceptable “ limits of droop.
Unfortunately these values render the roof useless in terms of flappy canvas and aesthetics.

It’s not exactly a secret that these vans aren’t fit for purpose but we keep buying them.
Whose to blame here?

 

[CaliforniaCylus]

VW clearly states their “acceptable “ limits of droop.
Unfortunately these values render the roof useless in terms of flappy canvas and aesthetics.

It’s not exactly a secret that these vans aren’t fit for purpose but we keep buying them.
Whose to blame here?

Indeed the TPI says 10 to 20 CMS in 72 hours. If your roof drops 1-2cm in 10 hours then the first re - inflate may not happen and then at 72 hours the cumulative will be maybe 14cms.

If like ours it drops at 5 CMS per 10 hours then it will autocorrect at 10 hours and then every 5 so when the technician returns at 72 hours, the cumulative drop will be between 0 and 2.5 CMS depending when the last re-inflate took place.

The TPI is totally unfit for purpose. The test of how much a roof is allowed to drop should not include the auto correct.

 

[Rosie75]

I am. Not exactly these actually - something I got off Etsy from a German doing 3D printed versions…as recommended by a couple I bumped in to in Lauterbrunnen.

Having spent literally 1.5 years trying to sort my sagging roof out with VW I’ve just started using these and they’re a game changer for me! They take 90 seconds to put them both on and that’s it, the roof is going nowhere…. No thinking about how long until the next auto level, no looking at a wonky roof, no upstairs lights not working. Bliss haha

I’ve been in St Ives since Weds and it’s been super warm in the sun and chilly at night. Before the clamps, this would have been a nightmare.

I’m the kind of person where things like a sagging roof just occupies my brain if it’s not sorted. As in, I’m always conscious / aware of it. My wife thinks I’m mad but it’s the way I’m wired!! VW should have sorted it but tbh I’ve had enough of trying to get it sorted and now I have a solution.

One word of warning… don’t forget to take them off before you put the roof down if you get them!!

We have just spent 3 weeks in Europe and it’s been stinky hot, we experienced the roof sag for the first time, when I found the lights didn’t work. Looked it up on here and yes the roof had sagged on one side. May rattle VW’s cage for fun, then look at these options

 

[Kev56]

We have just spent 3 weeks in Europe and it’s been stinky hot, we experienced the roof sag for the first time, when I found the lights didn’t work. Looked it up on here and yes the roof had sagged on one side. May rattle VW’s cage for fun, then look at these options

Same here, i just dropped the roof and raised again in the morning, after reading the posts on here seems vw are poo pooing their responsability again. Any reports of this happening on the new t7 or whatever its called?

 

[Rosie75]

Same here, i just dropped the roof and raised again in the morning, after reading the posts on here seems vw are poo pooing their responsability again. Any reports of this happening on the new t7 or whatever its called?

Not heard about the T7 yet. I just raised it before I went to bed as it cooled down. It hasn’t actually happened in the UK only when we went abroad. Will give VW a try, I like a challenge, our dealer has been very good so far and not questioned any thugs, let’s see how this goes

 

[Kev56]

Not heard about the T7 yet. I just raised it before I went to bed as it cooled down. It hasn’t actually happened in the UK only when we went abroad. Will give VW a try, I like a challenge, our dealer has been very good so far and not questioned any thugs, let’s see how this goes

Ha, just reminds me of the leaking bellows saga. An epic event which was eventually resolved for most with the updated versions. Pressure from us customers forced the issue to be resolved in the end.

 

[vmaxkiddy]

Ha, just reminds me of the leaking bellows saga. An epic event which was eventually resolved for most with the updated versions. Pressure from us customers forced the issue to be resolved in the end.

Not really resolved, there are some people that have leaking bellows and VW have stopped replacing them under warranty.

 

[jamesC]

I was wondering if anybody that uses a vanorak or other roof topper has the roof sag issue?? Using one might stop the hydraulic system from having such extreme temperatures to deal with?

Also, the ingenious "strap" solution from @sidepod actually worked when used over a few days??

 

[Nick from Bath]

I was wondering if anybody that uses a vanorak or other roof topper has the roof sag issue?? Using one might stop the hydraulic system from having such extreme temperatures to deal with?

Also, the ingenious "strap" solution from @sidepod actually worked when used over a few days??

It definitely helps with slowing the rate of sag but doesn't completely stop it in my experience.

Will be trying the strap option this weekend, assuming the hot weather lasts.

 

[Daveb999]

Nah, doesnt stop it but does slow it a little. Have the reflective roof cover on at the moment and still getting the sag. However it’s 34 degrees here today so maybe in “normal” temperatures the cover will help more.

Not tried the strap solution yet but will be in the future an d looking forward to hearing how others get on with it

 

[sidepod]

Straps work best if you use a couple of loops instead of just one. Easier to tension