New T6.1 order delays

[WelshGas]

You quoted on you’re post that they aren’t checked on PDI and I just informed you that they are part of the PDI. obviously in PhilR case the PDI clearly wasn’t carried out correctly.

Different Dealerships must have different PDI checklists then as I asked my Dealership 3 weeks ago if the system had changed. On new vehicles they don't check Leisure Batteries, EHU, water and gas systems , habitation lights, roof hydraulic function etc etc. Only Transporter base vehicle functions. They check the Control Panel switches on but not its function.
8 yrs ago it was the same as my Mains supply was not connected to the in vehicle Charger.
So you must have an excellent Dealership.
Judging by the number of problems posted by Forum Members very little if any checks are made on the Habitation equipment by many Dealerships.

 

[Adamocean1989]

Different Dealerships must have different PDI checklists then as I asked my Dealership 3 weeks ago if the system had changed. On new vehicles they don't check Leisure Batteries, EHU, water and gas systems , habitation lights, roof hydraulic function etc etc. Only Transporter base vehicle functions. They check the Control Panel switches on but not its function.
8 yrs ago it was the same as my Mains supply was not connected to the in vehicle Charger.
So you must have an excellent Dealership.
Judging by the number of problems posted by Forum Members very little if any checks are made on the Habitation equipment by many Dealerships.

Your incorrect again I’m afraid.Every dealership has the same PDI sheet

I am assuming you didn’t read what i said before so I’ll quote again.. “the pdi does include SOME camping equipment etc - the tables and chairs included’ you had stated “The PDI does not include any of the Camping/Habitation fittings or equipment.”

I haven’t mentioned I have an excellent dealer etc I’ve just said the facts. I am aware people have had issues etc and clearly things haven’t been done correctly which I’ve already agreed with

 

[Brendan eldridge]

Hi, did you happen to see a black 4 motion with Palmerston alloys ? I’m still waiting

No sorry

 

[Brendan eldridge]

Oh dear!
Ours from Eurovans had one B-pillar blacking missing!
I think its fair to say the PDI is 'lacking to non-existent'.

Can certainly agree with that, then the salesman says you will get a survey to complete and would appreciate a good score.
Do your job properly then you get a good score, simple.

 

[calibusje]

If I may (and I don't want to say who is right or who is wrong) but the chairs and (outdoor) table are put in the California at the factory in Hannover. If they are not there on delivery to the customer, something is wrong. Either they have disappeared between the factory and delivery to you at your dealer and that could indicate theft , or it is what's showed in an article: there are clear savings on quality control (and on materials).
Thread 'Cut corners on quality? Possible (& article with some explanation).'
https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/thread...possible-article-with-some-explanation.45969/
I keep showing that thread, I know, but now I also add: it will all work out in the end. No matter how annoying certain problems are. And then it's fun, actually, quite a bit.

 

[Corradobrit]

If I may (and I don't want to say who is right or who is wrong) but the chairs and (outdoor) table are put in the California at the factory in Hannover. If they are not there on delivery to the customer, something is wrong. Either they have disappeared between the factory and delivery to you at your dealer and that could indicate theft , or it is what's showed in an article: there are clear savings on quality control (and on materials).
Thread 'Cut corners on quality? Possible (& article with some explanation).'
https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/thread...possible-article-with-some-explanation.45969/
I keep showing that thread, I know, but now I also add: it will all work out in the end. No matter how annoying certain problems are. And then it's fun, actually, quite a bit.

Not necessarily theft, but its clear dealers are removing accessories to complete more pressing Cali handoffs. Covid and supply chain issues might have been the progenitor of some of these omissions.

 

[Californication69]

No sorry

Maybe round the back having something fixed

 

[WelshGas]

Your incorrect again I’m afraid.Every dealership has the same PDI sheet

I am assuming you didn’t read what i said before so I’ll quote again.. “the pdi does include SOME camping equipment etc - the tables and chairs included’ you had stated “The PDI does not include any of the Camping/Habitation fittings or equipment.”

I haven’t mentioned I have an excellent dealer etc I’ve just said the facts. I am aware people have had issues etc and clearly things haven’t been done correctly which I’ve already agreed with

Please give us a copy of this PDI then so the failing Dealerships can be held to account . I’m sure your excellent Dealership would be happy to oblige.
There have been repeated reports littered throughout the Forum of Chairs, Tables, Shower Fitments, Toolkits, First Aid kits, Warning Triangles, Roof Tie down kits, Kitchen Table strap, Magnetic Torch Option, Mains power cable to charger misfitting etc. So if there is a PDI checklist that covers even 10% of these items it would be interesting to see as it would seem the Dealerships, in general, are not following it.

 

[calibusje]

Not necessarily theft, but its clear dealers are removing accessories to complete more pressing Cali handoffs. Covid and supply chain issues might have been the progenitor of some of these omissions.

I used the word theft for the weight of the word But yes: Covid and the supply chain and their former boss who made quality secondary to sales. His assignment was to adjust the diesel gate losses and he did. Fortunately, he is now discarded, but they cannot just leave his chosen path. I suspect the quality of the California won't be what it used to be. As expensive as it is, it is treated just like any other Volkswagen. No special quality control afterwards and also materials downgraded. Not getting chairs and outdoor table when delivered is not due only to COVID or the supply chain in my humble opinion, but due to the quality check at the end of the production line. This is my idea about it, each his idea of course; but there is that article…

 

[Adamocean1989]

Please give us a copy of this PDI then so the failing Dealerships can be held to account . I’m sure your excellent Dealership would be happy to oblige.
There have been repeated reports littered throughout the Forum of Chairs, Tables, Shower Fitments, Toolkits, First Aid kits, Warning Triangles, Roof Tie down kits, Kitchen Table strap, Magnetic Torch Option, Mains power cable to charger misfitting etc. So if there is a PDI checklist that covers even 10% of these items it would be interesting to see as it would seem the Dealerships, in general, are not following it.

Im not quite sure why you keep going on about things irrelevant to what my first response was to your incorrect statement about how nothing camping related is part of the PDI? I just simply corrected you and said that some things are part of the PDI and all dealers have the same PDI sheet. I don’t control what technicians do and don’t do at all the dealerships and again as mentioned earlier I agreed that they clearly aren’t being done properly like Phils case and many others. I also don’t know where I said my dealership is excellent etc etc??

 

[WelshGas]

Im not quite sure why you keep going on about things irrelevant to what my first response was to your incorrect statement about how nothing camping related is part of the PDI? I just simply corrected you and said that some things are part of the PDI and all dealers have the same PDI sheet. I don’t control what technicians do and don’t do at all the dealerships and again as mentioned earlier I agreed that they clearly aren’t being done properly like Phils case and many others. I also don’t know where I said my dealership is excellent etc etc??

My Service Manager showed me the PDI checklist they work by. No California specific checks, only Base Vehicle.
You say they do have a California specific checklist.
I thought you might be able to tell us what it contains. It seems you are unable to oblige.

 

[Adamocean1989]

My Service Manager showed me the PDI checklist they work by. No California specific checks, only Base Vehicle.
You say they do have a California specific checklist.
I thought you might be able to tell us what it contains. It seems you are unable to oblige.

As you are clearly getting very passionate/upset about my little statement I’ve gone out my way to help settle your mind a little.. I’ve taken a little snippet from the PDI sheet for you.

 

[WelshGas]

As you are clearly getting very passionate/upset about my little statement I’ve gone out my way to help settle your mind a little.. I’ve taken a little snippet from the PDI sheet for you. View attachment 102650

Thank you.

 

[babble]

So, i just spoke to my VW dealership and he confirmed that, yes, all the californias are coming in much earlier than expected and that mine (ordered in September) is likely to arrive in January or February. He also told me not to worry, that i can pick it up when i like, even as late as the agreed date in May next year if needed.

(as an aside, i also asked him about raising the suspension 35 mm (with a VW approved kit) (which is a bit complicated here in Belgium in terms of rules - i was told that VW have to put this change on your documentation) and he had no idea, but is going to ask his technical team.)

 

[Hawthorn37]

So, i just spoke to my VW dealership and he confirmed that, yes, all the californias are coming in much earlier than expected and that mine (ordered in September) is likely to arrive in January or February. He also told me not to worry, that i can pick it up when i like, even as late as the agreed date in May next year if needed.

(as an aside, i also asked him about raising the suspension 35 mm (with a VW approved kit) (which is a bit complicated here in Belgium in terms of rules - i was told that VW have to put this change on your documentation) and he had no idea, but is going to ask his technical team.)

Hi @babble it seems then that VW in Belgium are more laid back about hanging on to stock than here in the UK. Here, VW UK mandate to their dealers they must transfer ownership to the customer within 14 days of arrival at the port of entry, or else!!

 

[Hawthorn37]

Thank you.

How about we collectively help out new Cali owners and devise the User’s PDI Sheet?! I think there’s been a few good starts in the forum already

 

[Californication69]

Happy Days !

This MY23 4Motion is like chalk and cheese compared to the MY20 2WD
The handling and way it feels planted on the motorway for the 130 mile drive back.
Even through some fast & furious tiny country roads. It stays on the road. No leaning over, no rocking and rolling and diving and lurching.
Absolutely solid.
Blipp the accelerator a couple of times before a bend and it auto changes down and powers out of the corner beautifully.
I’m truly smacked in the Gob with how it handles.
Black pearl looks almost very dark purple berry in the low direct sunlight.
New style bellows on the inside, very smooth and shiny.
EuroVans had a nightmare at 10:30 as the VW finance approval system went down and they had to email it manually. But all sorted at 13:00.
Really great service by EV. Nothing missing.
Used forum check sheet. Even got the table strap.
I did check the table and there is a hole for the adjuster. And one adjuster in the right leg.
So ? Confused.
Even got the fag lighter torch.

 

[PhilR]

View attachment 102677
Happy Days !

This MY23 4Motion is like chalk and cheese compared to the MY20 2WD
The handling and way it feels planted on the motorway for the 130 mile drive back.
Even through some fast & furious tiny country roads. It stays on the road. No leaning over, no rocking and rolling and diving and lurching.
Absolutely solid.
Blipp the accelerator a couple of times before a bend and it auto changes down and powers out of the corner beautifully.
I’m truly smacked in the Gob with how it handles.
Black pearl looks almost very dark purple berry in the low direct sunlight.
New style bellows on the inside, very smooth and shiny.
EuroVans had a nightmare at 10:30 as the VW finance approval system went down and they had to email it manually. But all sorted at 13:00.
Really great service by EV. Nothing missing.
Used forum check sheet. Even got the table strap.
I did check the table and there is a hole for the adjuster. And one adjuster in the right leg.
So ? Confused.
Even got the fag lighter torch.

Fantastic mate!! Looks lovely, really pleased for you. I must have just missed out on the new roof bellows then Oh well, Isotop ordered now anyway.
Agree about the drive, very impressed too. I’m certainly not going to upgrade the suspension anytime soon either.
Glad EV were good for you, apart from the table and chairs missing they were ok with us. And we got the torch too! Enjoy.

 

[bullibuskombi]

We were the same with Crawley Eurovans.
I got an email last Tuesday from VW that it had left the factory and then on Thursday EV called me to say could i pick it up Thursday 24th Nov.\
We was also expecting it March 23 but then EV did msg me to say it might be ready for December.
All in all a big surprise and having to find a months saving a short notice has made it stressful.

I ordered mine on July 3rd 22 with eta of June 23. Picked it up yesterday!

 

[Hawthorn37]

View attachment 102677
Happy Days !

This MY23 4Motion is like chalk and cheese compared to the MY20 2WD
The handling and way it feels planted on the motorway for the 130 mile drive back.
Even through some fast & furious tiny country roads. It stays on the road. No leaning over, no rocking and rolling and diving and lurching.
Absolutely solid.
Blipp the accelerator a couple of times before a bend and it auto changes down and powers out of the corner beautifully.
I’m truly smacked in the Gob with how it handles.
Black pearl looks almost very dark purple berry in the low direct sunlight.
New style bellows on the inside, very smooth and shiny.
EuroVans had a nightmare at 10:30 as the VW finance approval system went down and they had to email it manually. But all sorted at 13:00.
Really great service by EV. Nothing missing.
Used forum check sheet. Even got the table strap.
I did check the table and there is a hole for the adjuster. And one adjuster in the right leg.
So ? Confused.
Even got the fag lighter torch.

Nice new and shiny there! Need to get some mud on the wheels

 

[Californication69]

Nice new and shiny there! Need to get some mud on the wheels

Or various shades of grey camo wrap on the back end
I agree, way too shiny, but before the mud, it’s getting a Gtechniq ceramic coating

 

[Bepto]

Just got home and checked my emails.....

Fantastic News !! your vehicle is arriving with us today, Your registration number is as follows: XXXXXXX, Please confirm what date and time you would like to collect your new vehicle, at present time the vehicle will be prepared and ready for collection by Monday 12th December from 9.30am.

I'm a bit gob smacked to be honest, I only ordered mid Sept this year via DTD and was expecting at least 6 months wait. Not sure what to do now as I dont really need/want it until March hence waiting until Sept to order.

So I could cancel this & re-order, might cost me a little more? but I did want to change the spec slightly anyway. I suppose I lose at least £360ish deposit (I put £1K down is this correct?). I could order another and keep this one but would need to sell this one to pay for the 2nd & that seems a bit of a gamble trying to find a cash buyer at shortish notice when the time comes.

 

[calibusje]

Just got home and checked my emails.....

Fantastic News !! your vehicle is arriving with us today, Your registration number is as follows: XXXXXXX, Please confirm what date and time you would like to collect your new vehicle, at present time the vehicle will be prepared and ready for collection by Monday 12th December from 9.30am.

I'm a bit gob smacked to be honest, I only ordered mid Sept this year via DTD and was expecting at least 6 months wait. Not sure what to do now as I dont really need/want it until March hence waiting until Sept to order.

So I could cancel this & re-order, might cost me a little more? but I did want to change the spec slightly anyway. I suppose I lose at least £360ish deposit (I put £1K down is this correct?). I could order another and keep this one but would need to sell this one to pay for the 2nd & that seems a bit of a gamble trying to find a cash buyer at shortish notice when the time comes.

uh, I don't quite understand this. So you ordered one, it arrives in record time and you're not sure if you want it? Are the waiting times now so short that you can refuse a delivered cali to order another to slightly change the options? Wow, it has indeed changed a lot with waiting times, at least with you in the UK. There is still a waiting period of one year and longer here in Belgium.
Well, congratulations! I guess?

 

[Hawthorn37]

Just got home and checked my emails.....

Fantastic News !! your vehicle is arriving with us today, Your registration number is as follows: XXXXXXX, Please confirm what date and time you would like to collect your new vehicle, at present time the vehicle will be prepared and ready for collection by Monday 12th December from 9.30am.

I'm a bit gob smacked to be honest, I only ordered mid Sept this year via DTD and was expecting at least 6 months wait. Not sure what to do now as I dont really need/want it until March hence waiting until Sept to order.

So I could cancel this & re-order, might cost me a little more? but I did want to change the spec slightly anyway. I suppose I lose at least £360ish deposit (I put £1K down is this correct?). I could order another and keep this one but would need to sell this one to pay for the 2nd & that seems a bit of a gamble trying to find a cash buyer at shortish notice when the time comes.

Depends on the deal you had for this order, and the price you’ll pay on a new order, plus whether an early delivery gives you any issues I guess? But that’s purely financial. I would say though that a slight dissatisfaction in spec is more than compensated through just having and using a Cali. We regret not ordering a heated windscreen, but hey ho, we wait a little longer to demist ! But then we waited 12 months

 

[PhilR]

Is it about time to finally bring this thread to an end!!!?