What will happen now when 2G/3G networks will shut down?

[Persko]

Hi,
I just bought a 6.1 Ocean but realized that the 2G/3G connection will soon stop working. That will of course have an impact on the on-line services like emergency call, map upgrades and app functionality like readi g car status etc. Does anyone know what will happen in detail? I can't really find any official information from VW. It also means that VW no longer will be able to track my car, which is a good thing ;-)

 

[WelshGas]

Hi,
I just bought a 6.1 Ocean but realized that the 2G/3G connection will soon stop working. That will of course have an impact on the on-line services like emergency call, map upgrades and app functionality like readi g car status etc. Does anyone know what will happen in detail? I can't really find any official information from VW. It also means that VW no longer will be able to track my car, which is a good thing ;-)

I suggest you ask the European Commission as it is their legal requirement on All new vehicles since 2018.
VW, and others, have just been what they have told.

 

[KevH]

Having spent the last hour searching the web for info on this, I am none the wiser.
There seems to be a view that only vehicles built before 2021 may be affected but I can find nothing definitive.
To reiterate the OP's question, and given the potential impact, does ANYONE have an informed answer?

 

[Moggymog]

It is my understanding that 3G switch began in some areas early last year but 2G is likely to continue for a lot longer (don't have to comply with the switch off until 2033).

 

[Persko]

I have a 2022 but is under the impression that the car is equipped with 2/3G. I hope I’m wrong but probably not. Many things are old on this car so why expect an upgraded connection?

 

[dspuk]

The "3G" module in the 6.1 is an e-sim.

"An embedded sim (eSIM) based on the eUICC standards is a hardware-based sim card that acts like a regular sim card and is universally compatible with any mobile carrier or technology (2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, LTE, NB-IoT, etc.). Also, the eSIM can support multiple carrier profiles simultaneously."

 

[Lyonsontour]

It is my understanding that 3G switch began in some areas early last year but 2G is likely to continue for a lot longer (don't have to comply with the switch off until 2033).

Yep 2G will be around for ages in part because the banking ATM network uses 2G hence the lengthy switch off period

 

[KevH]

The "3G" module in the 6.1 is an e-sim.

"An embedded sim (eSIM) based on the eUICC standards is a hardware-based sim card that acts like a regular sim card and is universally compatible with any mobile carrier or technology (2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, LTE, NB-IoT, etc.). Also, the eSIM can support multiple carrier profiles simultaneously."

Interesting.
Does this imply that the ‘3G sim’ will continue to operate once the 3G signal is withdrawn?
Forgive my ignorance.

 

[Moggymog]

The "3G" module in the 6.1 is an e-sim.

"An embedded sim (eSIM) based on the eUICC standards is a hardware-based sim card that acts like a regular sim card and is universally compatible with any mobile carrier or technology (2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, LTE, NB-IoT, etc.). Also, the eSIM can support multiple carrier profiles simultaneously."

eSIM's can support all those technologies but you also need the relevant hardware to make it work (chipset, antenna etc.) If this isn't present then it would need parts upgrading/replaced to work in the future.

 

[dspuk]

Interesting.
Does this imply that the ‘3G sim’ will continue to operate once the 3G signal is withdrawn?
Forgive my ignorance.

Yes.

 

[dspuk]

eSIM's can support all those technologies but you also need the relevant hardware to make it work (chipset, antenna etc.) If this isn't present then it would need parts upgrading/replaced to work in the future.

Why I said 6.1. Not sure personally what is in the other models. The OP’s 6.1 will be fine for quite some time.

 

[RubyCoast2021]

Bringing this back having received the attached email on Friday. Simultaneously, my 6.1 reported a fault with the emergency call service and my VW garage called me as they had been notified of the fault.

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[nickb77]

Bringing this back having received the attached email on Friday. Simultaneously, my 6.1 reported a fault with the emergency call service and my VW garage called me as they had been notified of the fault.

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I installed that update a few days ago. Something to note in case anyone else has the same issue - after the install, every time I started the van the 'loading profile' message would show for a minute or so before finally clearing which was a pain. I found that a soft reset sorted that out, i.e. hold down the power button until the unit shuts down completely then press again to turn on. I have the Discover Pro.

 

[RubyCoast2021]

I don’t believe I have the prerequisite over-the-air capability. The garage seemed to agree and want me to come in for an update


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[lohr500]

I installed that update a few days ago. Something to note in case anyone else has the same issue - after the install, every time I started the van the 'loading profile' message would show for a minute or so before finally clearing which was a pain. I found that a soft reset sorted that out, i.e. hold down the power button until the unit shuts down completely then press again to turn on. I have the Discover Pro.

Interesting.
Same is happening on our Cali after the over the air update.

Also, it keeps throwing up a message at start up saying "no primary user" or words to this effect, but this seems to sort itself out after a while and my profile name (I am the primary user) then appears if I tap the top of the screen.

During the start up glitch, it does prompt me to reset the primary user by having both fobs to hand.
But i haven't resorted to this yet because as mentioned above, it seems to sort itself out given time.

The Cali is booked in for a full service next week anyway, so perhaps they will do further updates whilst it is in. They already know about the ecu update campaign and have this on the schedule of works to carry out. As well as a coolant pipe replacement, which is on another campaign.

 

[nickb77]

Interesting.
Same is happening on our Cali after the over the air update.

Also, it keeps throwing up a message at start up saying "no primary user" or words to this effect, but this seems to sort itself out after a while and my profile name (I am the primary user) then appears if I tap the top of the screen.

During the start up glitch, it does prompt me to reset the primary user by having both fobs to hand.
But i haven't resorted to this yet because as mentioned above, it seems to sort itself out given time.

The Cali is booked in for a full service next week anyway, so perhaps they will do further updates whilst it is in. They already know about the ecu update campaign and have this on the schedule of works to carry out. As well as a coolant pipe replacement, which is on another campaign.

The update will log you out - my profile disappeared and I only had 'Guest'. If you go into the Users settings, use the "Register" option to login with the email and password you would have originally setup and things then start sorting themselves out. Once I'd done that, I was back to being the primary user without having to do the two key thing. The soft reset was the last step for me after logging back in to fix the screen hanging on Loading Profile.

 

[lohr500]

The update will log you out - my profile disappeared and I only had 'Guest'. If you go into the Users settings, use the "Register" option to login with the email and password you would have originally setup and things then start sorting themselves out. Once I'd done that, I was back to being the primary user without having to do the two key thing. The soft reset was the last step for me after logging back in to fix the screen hanging on Loading Profile.

Thanks for the info.
I'd already done the two key fob routine this afternoon before reading your reply!!!
But if it plays up again I will try the "Register" option instead.