1st trip to France

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I’m planning a 1st trip to France and as a novice am not sure what we need to have by way of permits, rules & regs etc The thread on this is a few years old so I’m looking for recent experiences and recommendations for. T6.1. Thanks
 
Take a look at the AA website for guidance on driving requirements in France as a starter. If you plan to drive into any of the bigger cities then you will need to display a "crit air" sticker, which you can purchase online but make sure you find the official website as there are some unofficial sites that charge over the top. There are no visa requirements for UK visitors yet, but your limited to 90 days in any 180 day period.
 
Ensure you have “appropriate” insurance cover… we got hit in rear last Summer (we were stationary a toll both) I’ve not had voluntary or compulsory excess paid back and legal assistance turned out to be a joke… sorry your only covered in England and Wales (still waiting on this).
We have French friends who know absolutely nothing about Crit Air and the one that did… said they’d removed the necessity where she lived because of the huge decrease in through traffic (if memory serves me correctly)
 
Ensure you have “appropriate” insurance cover… we got hit in rear last Summer (we were stationary a toll both) I’ve not had voluntary or compulsory excess paid back and legal assistance turned out to be a joke… sorry your only covered in England and Wales (still waiting on this).
We have French friends who know absolutely nothing about Crit Air and the one that did… said they’d removed the necessity where she lived because of the huge decrease in through traffic (if memory serves me correctly)
Thank you for your cautionary note; may I ask which insurer you are with? I ask because, as you’ll see from my messages last year, I did have some trouble!
 
Crit Air……. Easy and cheap to obtain via official French government website….. as for toll passes etc, only if you really want to travel far and fast on motorways (we try to avoid toll roads as much as possible in France, we prefer to enjoy touring through the villages and small towns that we would otherwise miss). France is a great place for campers, with thousands of free or cheap Aires. What with that and the food/wine/scenery/history……… what’s not to like! Enjoy it!
 
Crit Air……. Easy and cheap to obtain via official French government website….. as for toll passes etc, only if you really want to travel far and fast on motorways (we try to avoid toll roads as much as possible in France, we prefer to enjoy touring through the villages and small towns that we would otherwise miss). France is a great place for campers, with thousands of free or cheap Aires. What with that and the food/wine/scenery/history……… what’s not to like! Enjoy it!
I've had some rubbish "lets go the scenic way" experiences - mile after mile of out of town industrial estates, factories and massive commercial farms. I agree with your sentiment but it's definitely worth checking on google maps the sort of places you're going to be going through!
 
I've had some rubbish "lets go the scenic way" experiences - mile after mile of out of town industrial estates, factories and massive commercial farms. I agree with your sentiment but it's definitely worth checking on google maps the sort of places you're going to be going through!
True :thumb
 
My experience of once crossing all of France avoiding toll roads was seemingly never ending roundabout after roundabout.

Now our mantra is use the toll roads to get to the area you want to be in and then puttle around.
 
May as well apply for a crit air sticker - some major routes go through zones so there's no harm in applying for a few quid. Other thing you may wish to buy is a motorway toll pass - so much easier than having to reach for tickets each time (or rather getting your copilot to!)
Good advice. Thanks
 
Crit Air……. Easy and cheap to obtain via official French government website….. as for toll passes etc, only if you really want to travel far and fast on motorways (we try to avoid toll roads as much as possible in France, we prefer to enjoy touring through the villages and small towns that we would otherwise miss). France is a great place for campers, with thousands of free or cheap Aires. What with that and the food/wine/scenery/history……… what’s not to like! Enjoy it!
Thank you. Yes, we hope to explore the smaller towns on our way to Bergerac
 
My experience of once crossing all of France avoiding toll roads was seemingly never ending roundabout after roundabout.

Now our mantra is use the toll roads to get to the area you want to be in and then puttle around.
Exactly our policy having got nowhere very fast avoiding them. 7 trips into Europe to date and of course they all start in France. Bought the dongle for faster tolls which has the added bonus of not ruining the day when you realise how much you have spent on the tolls until the monthly statement after the holiday! :)

Have found you can get through France at considerable pace compared to the UK clogged up motorways!
 
Exactly our policy having got nowhere very fast avoiding them. 7 trips into Europe to date and of course they all start in France. Bought the dongle for faster tolls which has the added bonus of not ruining the day when you realise how much you have spent on the tolls until the monthly statement after the holiday! :)

Have found you can get through France at considerable pace compared to the UK clogged up motorways!
Exactly, you get what you pay for, especially given you can easily hold 130kph (80) without getting stuck behind anyone
 
Hi
I’m planning a 1st trip to France and as a novice am not sure what we need to have by way of permits, rules & regs etc The thread on this is a few years old so I’m looking for recent experiences and recommendations for. T6.1. Thanks
Just a few important things to add.
.In rural areas and small villages, the French still exercise the 'Priorite a droite' (priority from the right) rule. This can be alarming for the inexperienced as you can be hurtling along a country main road, only to find that a car pulls out in front of you from the right - THEY HAVE THE RIGHT IF WAY UNDER THIS RULE!! Watch for this sign
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Also, in case of breakdown, ensure you have one hi-vis jacket per occupant, a red triangle and hazard lights switched on before retreating to roadside safety.
Carry a full set of replacement bulbs.
Watch the speed limits carefully, the old 90kph was reduced to 80kph a few years ago but central government have since retracted this allowing local Mayors to make their own decision, so you now have a mix of 80 & 90.
Enjoy your travels in that wonderful country
 
Watch out for middle-aged drivers, probably chain smoking Disques Bleus, hooning around in those little micro cars. Especially after lunchtime. They're driving those things coz they can get around a drink drive ban. Be very afraid.
 
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Crit’air is cheap and whilst I accept you may feel you can avoid these zones I would recommend getting one. We broke down and were towed to a garage within the zone and so definitely needed one to drive out. Yes, people will now say you can appeal, write a stern letter and bang a drum etc however for a fiver it is worth it in my opinion. Bip and Go is the transponder for tolls that is cheaper than the one you buy in the UK and is great. Watch the speeds - they are enforced.
 
Hi
I’m planning a 1st trip to France and as a novice am not sure what we need to have by way of permits, rules & regs etc The thread on this is a few years old so I’m looking for recent experiences and recommendations for. T6.1. Thanks
Hi
Autoroutes are worth using - not all of France is a scenic wonderland, and the RN (Routes Nationales) will often wind through less attactive parts of towns via multiple roundabouts.
Get a toll gizmo https://www.bipandgo.com/en. This takes the payment by direct debit after your trip, and enables you to drive through the fast lanes where the barrier goes up as you drive through. Also great if you are solo in a RHD vehicle.
Some motorways are now running with overhead vehicle plate detection, ie no toll barriers. I suspect most roads will be like this in 10 years. If you have the gizmo then it's detected by the gantries and taken automatically. If not it's a faff to log on and pay.
In a Cali you should squeeze under the 2.0m bar for Class 1 tolls. Take care, especially if you have bikes on the back, as some road underpasses have very limited headroom.
Use the aires on autoroutes, good facilites, picnic areas, playgrounds. You can forget about potholes, nearly all roads are built and maintained to a far higher standard than UK.
I've never had a crit air sticker in dozens of journeys, no problem.
Keep high vis and triangles in the van for emergency use.
Remember that drink driving is a major issue, and you can be stopped without cause for a test. It's just not worth the risk.
Usally plenty of free parking in small towns and villages - they want your custom.
European breakdown insurance - I recently renewed competitively with Aviva+RAC, cheaper than main RAC site.
The Cali is fairly secure except for the sliding window by the stove - this can be punched or slid out so someone can reach in. After mine was lifted, I fitted an aluminium angle inside to prevent this. Beach car parks seem especially prone to theft - but generally a safe country.
I hope this helps. Bonnes vacances.
 
Hi
Autoroutes are worth using - not all of France is a scenic wonderland, and the RN (Routes Nationales) will often wind through less attactive parts of towns via multiple roundabouts.
Get a toll gizmo https://www.bipandgo.com/en. This takes the payment by direct debit after your trip, and enables you to drive through the fast lanes where the barrier goes up as you drive through. Also great if you are solo in a RHD vehicle.
Some motorways are now running with overhead vehicle plate detection, ie no toll barriers. I suspect most roads will be like this in 10 years. If you have the gizmo then it's detected by the gantries and taken automatically. If not it's a faff to log on and pay.
In a Cali you should squeeze under the 2.0m bar for Class 1 tolls. Take care, especially if you have bikes on the back, as some road underpasses have very limited headroom.
Use the aires on autoroutes, good facilites, picnic areas, playgrounds. You can forget about potholes, nearly all roads are built and maintained to a far higher standard than UK.
I've never had a crit air sticker in dozens of journeys, no problem.
Keep high vis and triangles in the van for emergency use.
Remember that drink driving is a major issue, and you can be stopped without cause for a test. It's just not worth the risk.
Usally plenty of free parking in small towns and villages - they want your custom.
European breakdown insurance - I recently renewed competitively with Aviva+RAC, cheaper than main RAC site.
The Cali is fairly secure except for the sliding window by the stove - this can be punched or slid out so someone can reach in. After mine was lifted, I fitted an aluminium angle inside to prevent this. Beach car parks seem especially prone to theft - but generally a safe country.
I hope this helps. Bonnes vacances.
Hi Chris, I'm intrigued by the aluminium angle you mention...any chance of a photo? It sounds like a great idea! Thank you, Mike
 
Hi Beryl
Above site gives all info and official links. You receive an online certificate at purchase and hard copy in days.
Its only when you start touring France that you realize how vast it is, never tire of the place. Municipal sites are busier than the private sites but just as tidy, cheaper and well run. Enjoy your trip
 
Hi
I’m planning a 1st trip to France and as a novice am not sure what we need to have by way of permits, rules & regs etc The thread on this is a few years old so I’m looking for recent experiences and recommendations for. T6.1. Thanks
You are in for treat when you stay on a French campsite - makes UK sites look like a farmyard. And a lot lot cheaper for what you get. Aside from the plethora of roundabouts if you avoid autoroutes (reported in one of the posts below) is a pain in the rear end. But France is 'magnifique' for campervanning.
 
Hi
I’m planning a 1st trip to France and as a novice am not sure what we need to have by way of permits, rules & regs etc The thread on this is a few years old so I’m looking for recent experiences and recommendations for. T6.1. Thanks
 
I've been holidaying in France for the past 14 years (except the Covid years). Crit-air? Just last June drove through Nantes, Lyon (and a few other smaller towns) never any need for this. Never challenged, nothing!! France is a different experience than the UK (aside from the weather) - the country is geared up for camping - loads of free camping car sites and often you can stay on the autoroute aires (we do this often when travelling longer journeys). One piece of good advice - try and speak a bit of French, you don't have to be fluent but once they see you trying many French people will then reply in English! Then there is the wine.....and cheese:thumb
 

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